tv Greta Van Susteren FOX News November 4, 2009 1:00am-2:00am EST
i could not be more grateful to a whole host of people, certainly the people who have worked in my administration for the last four years, and they have burned the midnight oil. they have done much, much to serve this great state. i want to think this one woman. -- thank this one woman. i am proud to stand with her, and i cannot wait to watch her when she gets on that senate floor. it will be a joy. i must say, there are a whole bunch of people here that worked so hard in this campaign. maggie, joe, all of the people at the democratic state committee, rob, all of those folks, my heart goes out to you. thank you so much for what you have done. i cannot name everybody. if i did, i would get in
trouble. but you should know that through your work, god bless you. it is worth every minute of what you are doing. [applause] and if i might, i also want to say thank you to mr. daggett, who i think added to this campaign and who helped to make it a more focused debate, and his civility was a very important part of the campaign. let me close with the most important personal part of this. politics enters into one's personal life, but i have never had a group of people stand more solidly with me than my family, and the love of my life, through and through -- my children, end
to all of the folks in man's family, let me say -- and to all of the folks in my family, let me say thank you. and my mother is happy tonight. she is a registered republican. she is 93 years all tonight. i think we will move on. i want to thank frank and others for their leadership in this. they will keep up the good fight for new jersey, the values and everything we believe in. [applause] with that, let me just one more time say to all of you from the bottom of my heart, thank you for having been my friend in this process. there is more for you to do. there is more for all of us to do. i promise you, we may be retiring from politics, but we are not retiring from life or from speaking up about the things we believe in. we want to make sure every american, every person, has a chance to live the life that
america promises. thank you. shepard: jon corzine, the now defeated, fox news projects, governor, beaten by chris christie. his administration was mired in problems. it all came down tonight to a loss in the state of new jersey. shannon bream has been covering the campaign. she is there tonight. shannon, they all seem pretty upbeat tonight, despite all. >> the governor came out and took the stage. the folks are so supportive, and they did not get the results they want to tonight, but they wanted to be supportive. they were very gracious chris christie is now the governor elect -- they were very gracious. chris christie is now the governor elect. he said that chris christie had been very gracious to him, as well, and governor corzine had a lot of thanks for people and was
very humbled. he may be retiring from the official politics, but he urged folks to keep moving forward with the democratic agenda and not to be discouraged. shep? shepard: shannon bream, thank you. , bret baier, to you. >> -- bret baier, to you. bret: democrats bill owens leads doug hoffman, but that could change. and there you see dede scozzafava, who dropped out of the race just before election day. they border canada. it comprises roughly one-quarter of new york state, and these are lands that stretch across the adirondack mountains. brit hume, as you look at this
district 23, what do you see? brit: it is a 4 percentage point lead for democrat owens in that state, and that means that hoffman would have to have a tremendous showing for the vote that remains out there. i think that debbie wasserman schultz' optimism is warranted. bret: this could be one to hang their hat on, juan. >> i do not care where you live in this country. the idea that new jersey, a state really within the control of the democratic machine, lost tonight. what is going on in the 23rd is more indicative of the chaos going on in the republican party. i think there is trouble there. i think if there is something you are looking at, the grass roots, the tea party folks, and
able to push someone across the line, this guy came in late. hoffman came in late. he is not the most charismatic person on camera. bret: he does not live in the district. >> that is true, he is not in the district, but nonetheless, the energy was there for him, and that is why as they got close to the finish line, and they thought it would begin. brit: this is why you have primaries. the republican candidate, who was a way to the left of her party on a whole range of issues, ended up endorsing the democratic candidate -- who was way to the left of her party. many felt they were was not a party, and they got this guy. he was no seasoned politician. you can make a pretty good argument, juan, that he got as
close as he did. it was remarkable. >> do you think it was sarah palin or folks outside who decided to go outside and make owens the candidates? -- candidate? brit: what about dede scozzafava? bret: some people said to pick off that seat for democrats in upstate new york, the one that went to the man going into the army, the republicans, because there was not a primary, they chose dede scozzafava thinking, perhaps, that they could play on that moderate playing field. some to say something about the republican party, is it not unique to this district, what this back-and-forth was about?
>> wait a second. think about what happened in virginia. what did mcdonnell do? he went away from all of that, no mention of it. he was running on jobs, the number-one issue, the economy, transportation issues. if you extrapolate that, how can republicans win going into 2010? they may look at that model. the question of what happened in the 23rd was people say they are sick of obama, what is going on with taxes and the deficit? so which model when you adopt if you were a candidate? -- which model when you adopt? -- would you adopt? brit: the crucial issue we are talking about in every state is economy.
how much better is the economy likely to be in political terms? and the critical indicator there is always the unemployment rate. it is likely to remain quite high. this is likely to be the biggest issue in the 2010 election, and it will be very difficult for the democrats to overcome, as it is for any incumbent party or incumbent president at a time when the economy is bad or felt to be bad by the public. bret: a victory speech coming up, which really is the biggest story of the night, as we talked about, juan. you look about a state going red. and you have jon corzine, who spent tens of millions of his own money on the race, and you have a candidate in chris christie that some loathed as maybe not the best candidate, and here he is, winning this race -- that some thought was not made the best candidate.
-- was not may be the best candidate -- maybe the best candidate. >> they went with chris christie. now, what are they reacting to? i think they are reacting to corruption. the unions you just heard jon corzine thank, i think a lot of people are turned off. more transparency. to pick up on something brit said, in new jersey, it was overwhelming. 56% of the people said they were very worried about the economy, and it was over 80% of the people who said they were worried. corruption is out of control. bret: president obama campaigned three different times at five different events for jon corzine. they invested, the white house
did, in this race. brit: the president had no choice. new jersey is a big state. it is a blue state. jon corzine was a supporter. he had to go. this says something about the general political atmosphere in this country, but barack obama was not a central issue in this race, and, obviously, he would like it to come out another way, but it is very hard for a president to turn around a situation when an incumbent is in the kind of dire situation that jon corzine was in. bret: chris christie is coming to the stage, and this woman is introducing in. juan, when you look at virginia, does it tell a picture? even though it doesn't tell no outcome yet in new york 23?
>> if you are picking up the morning paper, if you are listening to fox news in the morning, it is all about a republican rising tide, and earlier in the evening, i think it washup talking about one year ago, -- i think it was shep talking about one year ago. i think we are seeing about discontent with the way the government is going, not only in state government. i mean, brit was right, obama not being a part of the decision for many in new jersey. they are not particularly happy on health care, not happy in new jersey, not happy in virginia. is that going to generate the kind of energy and passion that will shake up politics? there were the new voters last year that barack obama brought to the table. the voters now angry and discontent, changing it again? bret: you look at the landscape,
brit, governor charlie crist in florida, and he has an opponent down there, and when you look at other possible challenges on the republican side, does this election said something to them? brit: it certainly says that someone knew what runs a principled and disciplined race can reverse the obama tide that was building in the state, and i am talking here about bob mcdonnell, and one thing we need to get away from that we hear a lot in the mainstream media is that conservatism is not popular. there was a poll taken in june, and many say they are conservative, only 20% saying they are liberal, which is a reason that many call themselves something else today, calling themselves -- whoever gets them
next year will win the election. bret: we are just seeing chris christie, the governor-elect of new jersey, and during this stage. let's listen in. -- entering the stage. ♪ ♪ greta: and of course, we are listening to bruce springsteen as the governor-elect of new jersey and tears. he is the governor elect. -- as the governor-elect of new jersey enters. this campaign was sometimes not
always civil, was it, karl? >> they ended the campaign with an unusual -- jon corzine did, with an unusual tactic, which was to have the committee placed telephone calls to republican households, telling them that chris christie was bad and that they ought to vote for daggett. greta: even in the concession stand with jon corzine, he said that daggett brought in some civility, even while the two were slugging at each other. >> they were trying to figure out where this was going to go, but he did not turn out to be much of a factor tonight as chris christie got much of the vote. greta: let's listen. >> thank you. thank you. [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause]
yes, we did! >> ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much. daiichi so much, all of you who are here tonight. thank you so much -- thank you so much. >> thank you! thank you! thank you! >> hey, you have got to let me get through this. [laughter] first, i want to -- >> thank you! [laughter] >> now, i want to let you all know -- i want to let you all know -- i want to let you all know -- i want to let you all know that about 40 minutes ago,
i received a call congratulations from governor jon corzine. [cheers and applause] now, please. no, no, please, no. come on, now. listen. the governor's call was gracious. i thank him for his years of service to this day. he pledged -- he pledged -- to the state. he pledged a smooth transition to the new christie administration. [cheers and applause] now, now, i would like you to indulge me in just a few thank yous.
i want to thank you -- i would like you to indulge me if you think you -- a few thank you's. governor tom kaine, thank you very much. [cheers and applause] i want to thank my great friend, the state senator. i want to thank the future of the republican party, the chair of our state party. [applause] and most of all, most of all, i
want to thank the most important people in my life, my wife -- [cheers and applause] my four great children. [cheers and applause] i want to thank my dad, who is here with me tonight. [cheers and applause] i think you all know my brother. [laughter] [cheers and applause] and my sister. i love them both. thank you very much. [cheers and applause] you know, new jersey, new jersey
is an extraordinary place. here i am. a guy who was born in newark 47 years ago to two parents, two parents, struggling to make ends meet, with a walkup apartment at 14th street, and then five years later, five years later, they moved us to livingston, because they wanted our family to get the best possible public education, and everything i have been lucky enough to become, the foundation was laid for that in those schools, in those years, i great teachers and by my grandparents, who gave us the values that allowed me to be standing in front of you tonight as the 55th governor of the state of new jersey. [cheers and applause]
but, you know, i am said this to you all before. this election tonight is not about me -- i have said this to all of you before. it is not about many of you. this election was and is about the future of the state we love, the great state of new jersey. [cheers and applause] you see, because, because for me and for most of you, we have already had a great new jersey life. a great new jersey life. and what we want to do is to make sure that everyone in new jersey has the opportunity for that great new jersey life, and even more importantly, that our children and our grandchildren have the opportunity for that great new jersey life, because if we continue on the path that we are on, that will not be
possible. we are in a crisis. the times are extraordinarily difficult, but i stand here tonight full of hope for our future, full of expectations and dreams, not just for my children, but for all of the children of new jersey, and we are going to get to work to make that happen, starting tomorrow. [cheers and applause] because tomorrow, because tomorrow, together, we begin to take back new jersey. [cheers and applause] tomorrow, we are going to take that new jersey for our families. tomorrow, we are going to take back new jersey for our friends
and neighbors -- we are going to take back new jersey for our families. we are going to take back new jersey for the least of us so that they can build opportunity for themselves. [cheers and applause] tomorrow, tomorrow, we begin to build that greater new jersey for our children and grandchildren, because, you see, i want my children to raise their children in this state. i want your children to raise their children in this state. [cheers and applause] so tomorrow, tomorrow begins the task of fixing a broken state, and i can tell you, i can tell you, i can tell you that kim and i are ready for the task.
we are ready for the task. now, i will tell you the campaign, the campaign we just went through, will seem easy compared to the tasks that lie ahead of us to fix our state. we know the challenges we face, and over the next four years, we will have our work cut out for us. there are no easy answers for these difficult problems, but, you know, on the campaign trail, what we really learned is that the suffocating taxes and a government out of control, completely out of touch -- tomorrow, starting tomorrow, we are going to pick trenton up and turn it upside down. [cheers and applause] now, over the last week when we were on that campaign bus, i
have met a lot of people, and i want to tell you about a few of them so you can understand what we have in front of us. just today, i met a man from hamilton with his two children, who was a small-business owner, who with tears in his eyes told me, "if you do not win, business is going to go broke. i do not know what i will do with my children. we will have to leave the state, where i was born and raised." this week, i met a senior citizen, a man who was 90 years old, who grabbed me by the hands and said," i am 90 years old, but you had better do everything you said, because i am going to be here four years from now to hold you to it." [cheers and applause] tonight, that election is about him.
and a couple of weeks ago, i met a farmer, who was a fourth generation farmer in that town, and he said to me," you know, mr. christi -- he said to me, " you know, i may have to give up my farm after four generations, and i feel i am breaking the hearts of my ancestors." we need to make new jersey more affordable, and we need to do it now. [cheers and applause] and you know, you know there will be naysayers, who said that kim and i will not be able to lower taxes, that we will not be able to lower spending, that we will not be able to stop onerous legislation.
let me tell you that he's ready same people eight years ago when i became u.s. attorney -- let me tell you that these were the same people eight years ago o. they were wrong then, and they are wrong now. [cheers and applause] and kim and i will do it without regard to party or politics, without regard to race or ethnicity or gender, without regard to any of that, because the problems of new jersey are too big to conduct the petty politics of yesterday, no matter whose idea it is. if it is a good one, we will figure out how to get it done. [cheers and applause]
and now, let me say one more thing about the people in the state of new jersey. you know, you know -- you know, for years and years and years, the talking heads on television, the commentators in the newspaper have said you cannot win an election in new jersey without being personally negative, without doing smear attack advertisements on the character of your opponent. in february, when i announced for governor, i said that i knew that this campaign would get into the gutter and that i would not follow my opponent into that gutter, and i told you then. i did not know that that was a winning strategy or a losing strategy, but i told you that that was my strategy, and i have
more to too hard, have soared too hard, my entire life to give away my integrity -- i have more to too hard -- worked too hard, my entire life to give away my integrity for a job. and let me tell you this. through their overwhelming support tonight, the people of new jersey said it no more negative personal campaigns -- said no more negative personal campaigns. [cheers and applause] in the face of a $30 million on slot that consisted of almost exclusively negative personal campaigns against me, my family, and my friends, the people of new jersey decided enough is enough.
[cheers and applause] and so, now, so now, to all of those pundits out there, to all of those experts on politics, i beg you. let's turn the page. let's put the petty politics of the past behind us, and let's start a new era of hope and optimism in new jersey. [cheers and applause] you see, you see, because i was born here, and i was raised here, and this is the state that i love, and i will tell you. i have known from minute one of this campaign that we can change new jersey, so tomorrow, let's roll up our sleeves, let's get to work, at a hard task ahead of
us, but we will know that at the end of these four years, i promise you one thing, that we will restore your hope and your faith and your trust in new jersey. thank you very much. [cheers and applause] greta: you have just been listening to the governor-elect of new jersey, governor elect christie, and there will be thoughts about what this means. what hangs in the ballots in the other states, next. upbeat rock ♪ singer:wanted to get myself a new cell phone ♪ ♪ so i could hear myself as a ringtone ♪ ♪ who knew the store would go and check my credit score ♪ ♪ now all they let me have is this dinosaur ♪ ♪ hello hello hello can anybody hear me? ♪
[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- shepard: americas election headquarters, an election night 2009 turning out to be a very good night for the grand old party -- america's election headquarters. chris christie has defeated the incumbent jon corzine, that states switching from bluetooth red, and virginia also turning red, -- switching from blue to red. michael bloomberg will, indeed, get a third term, but it was much closer than any of the analysts had predicted, make no mistake. he defeated bill thompson bought
a small margin. still to go, the special election -- he defeated bill thompson by a small margin. bret? bret: there are many seats that could be vulnerable in 2010. kay bailey hutchison. kit bond in missouri. one in ohio. judd gregg in new hampshire. jim bunning in kentucky. they are all retiring, along with martinez in florida, whose seat is currently being held by a placeholder. the sunshine state is an idea of what they are facing. we have more with steve in miami. >> hi there, bret. yes, the senate races you mentioned may find themselves with a new ally or an adversary, those tea partiers.
already, they say they are ready to target charlie crist, running for the u.s. senate seat. when i told him about this yesterday, charlie crist laughed. how do you keep your sense of humor about this? the state organizer for florida's tea party activist was not amused. >> if i was charlie crist, i would re-think my running for senate. >> it was said that he crossed the line with his embrace of president obama and his endorsement of the stimulus bill of three-quarters of $1 trillion. >> it equals to generational theft, and now, we are in a downturn. >> the speaker at the florida state house last charlie crist
in name recognition but enjoys significant conservative support. >> a desire to have alternatives. it is very simple. people are tired of apologizing for their police. >> but charlie crist -- people are tired of apologizing for their beliefs. >> you may just about any issue that people care about, especially in the republican primary, and i am there. >> even with the august primary still obviously 10 months off, we are not hearing from one voice. getting back to these tea part iers, people i spoke with tonight said they do not see the passion coming, frankly borrowing on a lot of tactics that we saw in the successful the obama campaign last year. the question is, how do you harness it in a relatively short
period of time? bret? bret: steve, in miami, thank you. greta, over to you. greta: they must decide whether president obama's paula seas are helping or hurting. alicia acuna looks at this from little rock, arkansas region whether obama's policies are helping or hurting. >> the obama administration may seem like the best thing that happened to the gop this year. with elections like in 2010, blanche lincoln of arkansas might have one of the most difficult balancing act in the country. >> hello, ladies. how are you all? i am blanche lincoln. >> democratic senator blanche lincoln. the opposition is predicting victory.
a field of seven seek gop nomination to challenge her next time. barack obama lost ark. by 20% in 2008. >> this is a conservative state to a large extent. >> moderates dominate. but political watchers say do not paint is electorate with one broad stroke. -- this electorate with one broad stroke. lincoln's greatest challenge at home and in washington is balancing a position with a government-run health care system -- >> at a time when our economy is in a difficult time, it is not
what we need to do. it may cloud their loyalties. >> we will see how she votes on some of these health-care issues. >> there was a response directly to that statement, saying it was a personal attack on the senator, and any implication was, quote, inaccurate. the senator did meet with the president this afternoon, a meeting she said she requested, addressing concerns about tax payers carrying the burden of a government-run program. -- taxpayers carrying the burden. greta: when we come back, major
impressions? a bad night for president obama. sometimes these off-year elections can predict the election one year from now, and sometimes they do not. it is the current state of public opinion in the country, and for new jersey and virginia to swing by more than 20 points against the democrats in these two pretty representative, pretty large states, that is a pretty big deal, and i think it puts president obama in jeopardy. >> catching this disease. are you kidding me? the second coming would not have saved jon corzine, which is the reason i predicted chris christie would win. i said that yesterday. the fact of the matter is,
everybody said everything, and it has been interesting. i resent the inside the beltway thing. but the fact of the matter is, nobody ran a negative campaign against barack obama. you know, you go back four years, and the democrats are running hard against george bush on the air. it was so bad, in fact, that chris christie was running as -- >> it was all about obama's big government, health care, cap and trade. there was a state legislature based in virginia, a coal area. the state assembly ran against cap and trade and beat the democrats. he pulled himself together admirably.
>> to try to make predictions out of these things, yes, it was a good night for republicans. it is not going to change things. obama was 51% favorable. obama does not have much to worry about. >> it is the democrats in congress that have a lot to worry about. virginia democrats have a very tough time of voting for obama cap and trade legislation, and there are plenty of democrats in areas like virginia and even the new york 23, which looks close. they were behind obama one year ago, but i think that a lot of those congressional democrats have to have second thoughts about barack obama in nancy pelosi. -- and nancy pelosi. bret: new york 23, is it too
close to call? >> i have been there. there are 4000, 5000 precincts, and a lot of them have the canadian border. if a democrat wins, it is a big deal. does it mean anything? i do not think so. they need to get on this show with you geniuses, which you have done an excellent job tonight. at least we know the partisanship is back and alive. let's get ready for 2010. >> i totally agree with that, and i think an awful lot of republicans are looking more for to 2010 than they were even a few months ago. bret: ok, gentlemen, it is always fun. sorry about the inside the beltway thing, bob. we will leave it there and go to greta. greta: we're talking about what it means for the future after a short break.
-- two states changed from blueto to red. >> the republican nominee got a higher percentage than george w. bush, in 2004. greta: in new jersey, you have got jon corzine, a democrat, and there was a very tough time with that property tax, some to some extent, he did it to himself. >> -- so to some extent, he did it to himself. >> spending programs with the national issues. it is not identical but reasonably congruent, and virginia, 12 points behind the obama showing in virginia. greta: i think that is a bigger signed and in virginia, where you have a democrat with a track record -- that is a bigger sign than in virginia.
>> it was a winning campaign nationally for bush, and if you look at some of the counties, of suburban, and ethnic mixture, and so forth, -- all suburban, jon corzine carry that by only one or two points. he carried that in 2005 by more. it is a sign that republicans might have a chance to come back in those high-income areas that have been liberal on the cultural issues since 1996 and have shunned the southern republicans, and yet, when county was very close. you saw it in westchester county. -- one county was very close. so i think that there is something that maybe crackling there. let's watch some of those big, suburban districts. greta: these two states are different, virginia and new jersey. virginia was a clean state. there was no incumbent, but in
new jersey, it was different and there was an uncommon. >> he had his own -- and there was an incumbent. >> he had his own issues. let me point out another area that i think may have ramifications for the health- care bill, for a cap and trade bill for 2010, and that is in the results for virginia by congressional district. they take the results and tabulate them. virginia has three freshman democratic congressman elected in districts formerly held by republicans. 61% for bob mcdonnell in one. the three democrats who had close races in 2008, and even gerry connolly in fairfax county, they will be watching
that. fairfax county, by the way, is another example of an affluent county that had been trending democratic really since 1996. that was a dead heat between bob mcdonnell and creigh deeds. in fact, i think that mcdonnell carry that by a point or two, and i do not think anybody would have predicted that -- mcdonnell carey did that. -- carried that. greta: shepard? shepard: we have breaking news. this was the race in which dede scozzafava, she called herself a moderate, and many republicans cotter more akin to a liberal. -- called her more akin to a liberal. she dropped out of the race. fox news predicts that the democrat has won.
bret: back with brit hume with our final thoughts, and juan williams. juan, your thoughts? >> for the democrats, there is no getting away from it. i know the democrats will try to put a nice face on it. it is not about barack obama so much, but there is a tide in the country, and people are looking for change. they wanted to change in 2008, and they want change in 2009, and it looks better for republicans now, much better than it looked one year ago. bret: brit? brit: the negative effects of the recession remain, and we will have the same kind of atmosphere one year from now that will not benefit the incumbent party. it is more likely to benefit republican party, so the situation tonight bodes well for the republicans. they would be well advised as
they look at tonight and are looking at someone to emulate, look at bob mcdonnell, who ran on principles, without alienating people. bret: ok, gentlemen, thank you, as always. we have the two governors who are now going to be republicans. greta: now here is a final word with karl rove and our other guests. >> i think it is a mixed bag. when you look at bob mcdonnell, you want to emulate him, but you do not want to look at new york 23, where there was a real split, a liberal moderate versus a conservative, and you look at the primaries, and it is the exact same thing. which republican party do we see in 2010? not a good night for the democrats. greta: karl?
>> there were statewide elections. republicans have taken six of seven, and they may take all of the races in pennsylvania, starting with the supreme court race. republicans picked up a state senate seats in michigan in a special election. they got the mayorship in st. petersburg, florida. this has been a night of unusual successes for the republican party. greta: how about the conservative party losing in the 23rd district, supported by so many people in the republican party? >> sometimes, when you are unknown, 30 days before the election, that is not a good thing. lots of money from the democrats. a carefully organized, and i have to tip my hat for him, smart democratic operatives inside the white house to steal away at republican seat.
greta: thank you. shepard? shepard: putting the rap on things on tuesday evening, election night, as you decided. and we reported. there is so much to go through tomorrow, but for the white house, this will be seen for what it was, a clean sweep for republicans in two states, here in virginia, where it was very much expected, and in new jersey, it was expected that that would be a race that would not be called until the wee hours of the morning, but instead, chris christie beat the incumbent jon corzine at this point by about four points. the surprise of the night, that one may be it. for greta and brit, thanks for being with us. we are all back. "hannity" is next. stay tuned. . .